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teekay

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 21 Aug 2008 12:38   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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dumbstep

i've been trying to trace the root of this word. my studies into the etymology have lead me to the general area of the inland empire area of Southern California. Granted this area has blessed us with McDonalds and the Hell's Angels, along with meth labs, Famous Stars and Straps, spiked hair and knee length black socks on males, and the classic t-shirt" suicide, homicide, genocide, riverside."

but just knowing where the word originates doesn't always explain the useage.

my opinion is that the base motivation for the word has been fear or phobia.

prosophobia to be exact.

http://aworldamongworlds.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/prosophobia-the-fear-of-progress/


if i was to speculate on causes, i would have to lean towards the metals from cans of beer causing early Alzheimers symptoms.

http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_symptoms_of_alzheimers.asp




what are your thoughts on this subject?

warcampcrew

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 21 Aug 2008 12:40   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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the root of this comes from Owned Clothing...i think..

she made t-shirts, and now all her artists are spinning dubstep ..

=)

kellyd

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 21 Aug 2008 12:44   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

I wasnt supposed to say anything....

But gzuz was seen spining dubstep at upgrade

lol

Soon all the haters will be skanking!

djpawn

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 21 Aug 2008 12:44   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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yeah dood all the people that originally made the "dumbstep" comments are all making and spinning dubstep and asking for dubs from me and all the homies..
hahahaha bitches.

we love ya ganjamen

chief13

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 21 Aug 2008 12:46   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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This is what the originator of such term deserves.

a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/pimpslap/aciel9669/wrestling/PimpSlap.gif?o=54" target="_blank">

teekay

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 21 Aug 2008 12:54   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

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According to warcampcrew ...

the root of this comes from Owned Clothing...i think..

she made t-shirts, and now all her artists are spinning dubstep ..

=)
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what's the website??

rastevefari

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 21 Aug 2008 16:06   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

It is from owned clothing

Jenn and Gzuz came up with it.

and now jose is all about the dumbstep. infact him and john from drumunit produce dumbstep under the alias "dumsteppas"

s**ts weak. very weak...

awesome shirt tho..


ill take credit for his rise into dubstep when i showed him "ragga step" with stivs its a pity mix buahaha.

that mother f**ker HATED at first... no look.. NOW LOOK!! created a dumbsteppin monster!

rastevefari

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 21 Aug 2008 16:09   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

i have to admit tho it was pretty lame in the beggining...

but then producers started getting better and tunes started getting better. The bug with "poison dart" was the first big tune that hooked me... rosko, caspa, 6blocc followed up with some dope tunes..

good s**t. there is still tons of crap. but like any genre there are a few gemz...

step_correct

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 21 Aug 2008 16:12   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

lol

kellyd

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 21 Aug 2008 16:12   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

I will def agree that the majority of Dubstep sounds similar to a siren you would hear when your country has been nuked.

But theres f**kin mint out there to.
Just like any genrea.


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According to rastevefari ...

i have to admit tho it was pretty lame in the beggining...

but then producers started getting better and tunes started getting better. The bug with "poison dart" was the first big tune that hooked me... rosko, caspa, 6blocc followed up with some dope tunes..

good s**t. there is still tons of crap. but like any genre there are a few gemz...
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aero

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 21 Aug 2008 16:15   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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this is staggeringly HI-larious.


the best part is that the hypocrites will later forget what happened and rewrite history in a way that makes them look like they founded the oc dubstep movement.



"That monkey shot me in the ass and paralyzed me! Oh sweet irony!"

aero

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 21 Aug 2008 16:17   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

also, no sayings were ever originated on a tshirt.

teekay

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 21 Aug 2008 16:29   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

so was my initial hypothesis correct?

did the term originate from the inland empire?

and is the person/people that coined the term canned beer drinkers?

peterbe

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 21 Aug 2008 16:43   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

lighten up, i think the shirts are comedy. im a dubstep fan/dj and would straight rock the shirt to a show just to lol peeps.

jenn @ owned is awesome

ghetto_dave

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 21 Aug 2008 18:53   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

yo.. Teekay.. why u bad mouthin the Inland Empire? were doin sum dubstep shows out here for f**ksakes, thats bad for buisness!!

pumpelmump

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 21 Aug 2008 18:55   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

This.


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According to aero ...

the best part is that the hypocrites will later forget what happened and rewrite history in a way that makes them look like they founded the oc dubstep movement.
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djsatin

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 21 Aug 2008 19:08   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

yes yes big up to all my boys and tunes will follow on Hum Fi Dub...

teekay

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 21 Aug 2008 19:32   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

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According to ghetto_dave ...

yo.. Teekay.. why u bad mouthin the Inland Empire? were doin sum dubstep shows out here for f**ksakes, thats bad for buisness!!
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re-read first post for answer.

smog

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 21 Aug 2008 19:43   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

awesome

dj.steady

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 21 Aug 2008 20:17   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

LOL

[ dj.steady - 21 Aug 2008 21:10 ]

samxl

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 21 Aug 2008 20:23   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

“The only vice that cannot be forgiven is hypocrisy. The repentance of a hypocrite is itself hypocrisy.”

unifire

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 21 Aug 2008 20:24   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

Thats what you guys get for calling jump up clownstep!!

HAHA

johndada

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 21 Aug 2008 20:54   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

dont front.. you know i invented the word!

aero

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 21 Aug 2008 23:15   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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jenn is the dope sauce defiantly.

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jenn @ owned is awesome
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pumpelmump

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 22 Aug 2008 00:16   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

Dylan - someone who still writes drum & bass - was the first to call jump-up "clownstep", if you want to split hairs.

unifire

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 22 Aug 2008 01:44   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

Duh

gzuz

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 22 Aug 2008 05:52   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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LOL awesome!

It originated from Jenn and I being against all of our favorite jungle producers giving up on jungle and focusing only on dubstep.

- "Jungle's on it's way out, it's all about dubstep"

- "More like dumbstep!"

www.myspace.com/dumbsteppaz

p.s. i'm a classy son of a bitch, beer out da bottle, pinky out!

piston22

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 22 Aug 2008 08:15   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

in my sometimes not so humble opinon....
most new music from old genre SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!
from heavy metal to hip hop to jungle..
I am sorry to say that all my favorite music styles have taken a massive nose dive over the past few years...
Dont get me wrong I have been a hardcore junglist since RAW first starting playing that sound at the gabber parties... but I mostly listen to older jungle nowwa days...
I am not trying to poo poo on the many talented djs and producers trying to keep it alive.. I have to actually that you guys... but honestly overall it was getting a little boring. Thank god dubstep came around and showed everybody that bass frequencies and solid grooves work better at lower tempos. Dont get mad at the junglist for gravitating toward a sound that just seems to work.
that being said I hope that it was a good learning experience for everybody and we get back to making jungle music that works instead of the common over the top sper mega explosive sound that just got boring. It isnt necesary to squeeze in every frequency into a tune to make it work..
I love both sounds and I hope they both continue to grow and refine themselves..
also teekay the comment about the canned beer drinking is just comedy...
and it is the same sence of humor that you shoudl consider when ya see a bumbstep shirt... one of my beefs with jungle isthat we are all so seriuos about how seriuos jungle buisness is...
I think we forgot how to have fun... lets lighten up and poke a litte fun at ourselves some times.... bumbstep, dubstep whatever... as long as the girls keep comming out and the bass keep booming who cares what you call it.

p.s. I hope hip hop and rock also gets better... listening to 1 or 2 new albumns I really dig a year is saddening... In the 1990s there were hundreds of fresh artists bring the heat constantly now I have to really dig to find something I really dig.

teekay

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 22 Aug 2008 10:22   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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all good, i'll raise my cup to and with any of you guys. i'm more about the lulz than anything else...and i leave u with this:


haggard

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 22 Aug 2008 10:49   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

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According to teekay ...

i've been trying to trace the root of this word. my studies into the etymology have lead me to the general area of the inland empire area of Southern California. Granted this area has blessed us with the Hell's Angels, along with meth labs, and the classic t-shirt" suicide, homicide, genocide, riverside."

what are your thoughts on this subject?
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I think you've got the IE down to a T, just add that we invented the cool out of lifted trucks in suburban housing, those curbs can get gnar to romp over bro....

theanonymous1

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 22 Aug 2008 10:56   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Stickin to my guns... still can't get into it. Maybe one or two tracks I can dig on, but overall, just doesn't do it for me. And this coming from an old roots/dub head. But then again.. who am I?

DUMBSTEP ON!

step_correct

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 22 Aug 2008 11:00   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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For every person that gets jaded over dubstep there was prolly an old school techno/ardcore head that was jaded about jungle when it came out, no?

jahwy

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 22 Aug 2008 13:10   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

Stevie your stealling my credits ya know damn well i was pushing the ragga DUBSTEP into your ears with the richie spice rmx's along with a few others, then you discovered the "its a pity" song (which i think is gay to play if your a male btw.... lol

give me my props!!!

and 40 acres and a mule!!! (make sure it is prime I.E. relastate though, i'm thinking Claremont it's nice there, and doesn't smell as bad as Chino Hills and Norco is out cuz i'm alergic to horses lol

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According to rastevefari ...

It is from owned clothing

Jenn and Gzuz came up with it.

and now jose is all about the dumbstep. infact him and john from drumunit produce dumbstep under the alias "dumsteppas"

s**ts weak. very weak...

ill take credit for his rise into dubstep when i showed him "ragga step" with stivs its a pity mix buahaha.

that mother f**ker HATED at first... no look.. NOW LOOK!! created a dumbsteppin monster!
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he is a monster now lol (he'll try an play it on all jungle nites now breaking protocol... lol

[ jahwy - 22 Aug 2008 14:21 ]

takdiego

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 22 Aug 2008 13:16   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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oh man...I wish I saw jenn's face when this thread was or will be shown to her

hahahaha

MUCH love to owned

jahwy

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 22 Aug 2008 14:23   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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lol i want to see her face once she finds out the Gzuz is pushing the dubstep more than jungle. lol

he will be dis-owned (hahaha)

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According to takdiego ...

oh man...I wish I saw jenn's face when this thread was or will be shown to her

hahahaha

MUCH love to owned
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gzuz

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 22 Aug 2008 14:29   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

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According to jahwy ...

lol i want to see her face once she finds out the Gzuz is pushing the dubstep more than jungle. lol

he will be dis-owned (hahaha)

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According to takdiego ...

oh man...I wish I saw jenn's face when this thread was or will be shown to her

hahahaha

MUCH love to owned
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i'm pushing both evenly, if anything trying to bring them closer together but, please don't tell her lol



[ gzuz - 22 Aug 2008 14:31 ]

rastevefari

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 22 Aug 2008 14:34   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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hahaha props props.

you were always pushin that ish into our ears cuz i remember how much me and jose used to talk s**t!!! haha. I guess i can only speak for myself when i say "its a pity" had enough ragga jungle elements mixed with the dubstep to make a tune that i/we liked. Jose hated it at first but...

well we know the rest of the story lol

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According to jahwy ...

Stevie your stealling my credits ya know damn well i was pushing the ragga DUBSTEP into your ears with the richie spice rmx's along with a few others, then you discovered the "its a pity" song (which i think is gay to play if your a male btw.... lol

give me my props!!!

and 40 acres and a mule!!! (make sure it is prime I.E. relastate though, i'm thinking Claremont it's nice there, and doesn't smell as bad as Chino Hills and Norco is out cuz i'm alergic to horses lol

bamr

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 22 Aug 2008 14:39   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Legalize Speed!

thegrizwalds

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 22 Aug 2008 14:43   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

lol...this thread is solid gold.

i was turned off by dubstep at first, but "its a pity" and other raggastep got me hooked.

the dumbstep/clownstep reference is classic tho

since we've been making it i been wearing the dumbstep shirt out to upgrade and other shows...
and the dubstep heads have actually started calling it dumbstep too...

consider it a term of endearment...

haters like it and steppers are adopting it

...jose got the hook up on the shirts and is now taking orders for them

BOOM SON

...boom...

teekay

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Re: dumbstep

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According to thegrizwalds ...

lol...this thread is solid gold.



and the dubstep heads have actually started calling it dumbstep too...


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name names or ur soft!

rastevefari

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 22 Aug 2008 15:12   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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lol @ that pic

hera

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 22 Aug 2008 15:29   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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i thought it was zona, lol

gzuz

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 22 Aug 2008 16:27   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

we're dumbstepp"az"
not dumbstepp"ers"

it's positive not negative

rastevefari

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 22 Aug 2008 16:30   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

GIS for "dubstep"

haggard

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 22 Aug 2008 16:40   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: dumbstep

the logo only has 1 "P" but u spell it dumbsteppaz..... Bass crazy kickin'.

thegrizwalds

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name names or ur soft!
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no names
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gzuz

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Re: dumbstep

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According to haggard ...

the logo only has 1 "P" but u spell it dumbsteppaz..... Bass crazy kickin'.
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@ teekay

we're just f**king around, if anything we're just poking fun at ourselves. We like the step and jungle it's just music

teekay

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Re: dumbstep

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According to gzuz ...

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According to haggard ...


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@ teekay

we're just f**king around, if anything we're just poking fun at ourselves. We like the step and jungle it's just music
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word, it's all lulz....

samxl

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 22 Aug 2008 20:48   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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“There are three things in the world that deserve no mercy, hypocrisy, fraud, and tyranny.”

teekay

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 22 Aug 2008 23:38   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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u guys got competition for your name, a search reveals btw.

http://www.myspace.com/thegrizwaldsband


About me:
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